Say Ben Rollins Can “Talk the Fire Out of Any Burn”
Nancy, France, had its Emile Coue, but Wayne County has its Ben Rollins.
In Wayne County today 50 people or more will not only tell you that he can “talk the fire out of a burn” but they will give names and information concerning people on whom he has practiced the art.
“I guess I have cured hundreds of folks,” Mr. Rollins, aged 77, told The News reporter who called upon him at his home near Ham Springs yesterday afternoon.
“It ain’t been more’n four weeks since a (line obscured) Wilson to git me to talk fire out of a burn he hal. He had fell not some hot stuff—was workin’ with the Velvet Ice Cream Company in Wilson—and it looked like he was done for. Then one of the boys who used to know me told him to come here. Well, I cured him and he is all right now.
Mr. Rollins is not the only one who testifies to the efficiency of his treatments.
“Did you ever hear of a Ben Rollins who is said to be able to talk the fire out of a burn?” I asked J. Floyd Barden, stopping first to ask the way to the Rollins’ home.
“Sure, I have heard about him. Now I don’t believe in haints and I am not superstitious, but I will tell you this. One of my children got a hand badly burned—the skin peeled off when some hot Mentholatum got on it—and was in sure enough agony when Ben came and talked to it. Pretty soon the baby was asleep and the hand got all right.”
Mr. Barden also said that his brother, Howard Barden of New Bern, once had a badly burned leg and that Mr. Rollins talked the fire out of the burn.
“And you can see the scar o his leg still yet,” said Mr. Barden.
Mr. Rollins explained that he was able to take the fire out through faith. “If I didn’t believe that I could (next line obscured) to try.” He insists, however—and here is where his formula differs from Coue’s formula—that it is not necessary for the patient to believe in what he is doing.
As The News understands the formula Mr. Rollins bends very close to the affected part and goes through a series of mystical movements and incantations. “But you couldn’t understand the words I use even if the burn was on your face,” he told the reporter.
“Where did you learn to do this mystery,” I asked the old man, grizzle-haired and bent with the weight of age.
“I was learned to do it,” he replied. “When I was about 16 years old. I was at a fish camp on the river when the straw where people was sleepin’ caught fire and badly burned me before I could git out. Then my brother threw me into the river or I would have been burned up completely.
“Well, my right arm was terrible. It looked like I was going to lose it,” and here Mr. Rollins pulled up his sleeve and displayed an old shriveled scar very near the shoulder and on the under side.
“Then I met a feller, Matthew Casey, who asked me to let him look at the place. He said he could take the fire out, but I didn’t pay much ‘tention to him. He did somethin’ and said somethin’ and sure enuf in a few days the fire was gone and the arm was all right.
“Then I says to myself as how there was virtue in that thing and I wanted to learn it. So I looked him up one Sunday and just before preachin’ time, and he was in a hurry to git away to services. I had told him before that I wanted to learn it, and this time he says to me ‘Well, just step over and see Aunt Phebe Capps. She will learn you.”
Mr. Rollins says that he at once sought out the woman—he described her as being about 90 years old at the time—and declares that for a piece of silver she taught him how to do the mystery.
“And I could teach you to do it if you wanted to learn, but you would have to give me a piece of silver. If you paid in greenback, it wouldn’t be no good, and I wouldn’t learn you how to for all the greenbacks in the world. It must be silver.”
It was some 60 years ago that Aunt Pheobe [Phoebe?] Capps, according to his story, gave Mr. Rollins the secret, and he says that he has been “talking the fire out of burns” ever since.
From the front page of the Goldsboro News, Wednesday morning, Aug. 4, 1926
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